[Joe S]

I want to put together a GM 3800 series 2 SuperCharged rear wheel drive, with 5 or 6 speed trans. I know that they put the 3800 in modern Camaro/Fire birds but they don't have the SuperCharger and they have the front wheel drive Bonnaville with an automatic with the Super Charger. Can the Super Charger off of the front wheel drive motor go on the rear wheel drive regular 3800 or is the motor make up different. What bell housings, flywheels ect. will fit the 3800 or is it a block all by itself. Is the old Buick 3.8 the same motor or is it alltogether different. Any info or suggestions will apreciated.
Thanx Joe

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[Crosleycrazy1]

Cool idea! The blocks are the same - the build up is different - Holden in Australia builds it the proper way (RWD) - I went to the Buick V6 Open House last summer (I'M a Buick Retiree) - they had a Holden Wagon on display 3800 and SuperCharged!!! You might be able to source the setup out of Australia - What are you planning on putting it into?? What part of Mich are you in?? I've emailed a friend who works in the V6 plant hopefully he will add some wisdom here!! Good luck on your project!

 

[Joe S]

Thanks for the reply
As you can probally tell I am new to this web stuff. My next step is to find out what other trans set ups will fit the 3800 series 2 especially the fly wheel. Are the fly wheels from series 1 motors the same as series 2.

Joe

 

[Crosleycrazy1]

Hi Joe - here are a couple of links I've found - <a href="http://www.dterm.com/buick/super1.htm" target="_blank">www.dterm.com/buick/super1.htm</a>
this one has a listing of selected swaps by Make - <a href="http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/listbyengine.html" target="_blank">http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/listbyengine.html</a>
Good luck on your MGB - I think it's a terrific project!!

 

[Crosleycrazy1]

Hey Joe - here is a Web Site that is perfect for you - covers all sorts of V6 swaps into the MGB - can you guess the name of the Forum??
www.amazingforums.com/V6MGB/forum.html
Good luck on your search

 

[Joe S]

WOW Thank you for the great post I have found A lot of good info but not all the answers. I wasn't able to get onto the site from your last post the amazingforums one if i click on the name in your post it comes up "can't find page" the other sites have been helpful I am going to try an E-mail to fieroman he seems to have the answers I hope thanks again Joe

 

[Joe S]

I found the forums web site it looks like it will be a lot of help thanks Roy. If any one is interested it is amazingforums.com/forum/V6MGB/forum.html

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[1meancuda]

I thought I've heard of people taking the 3800 and using a 700R4 trans and putting the combo in RWD vehicles. If that's the case, I wouldn't see what the problem is with using a stock supercharger from a FWD vehicle. Just make sure if your using a stock 3800 comp. chip that it's going to fully utilize the supercharger. You might want to look at aftermarkter chips and even bigger injectors.

 

[Crosleycrazy1]

High Zach! The biggest problem with using a FWD set-up is that the air inlet and the heater hoses are at the rear of the motors which puts them right into the firewall. The Supercharged 3800 in Australia used in the Holdens is the perfect set-up!! One plus of the FWD is that the front of the motor is shorter (timing chain/water pump assembly) and oil filter is at a different angle.

 

[Joe S]

Does any body know how to get a set up out of Australia? I left a massage for a guy on another bulitun board who is from Aust. but have not herd from him. Joe

 

[Barry.M]

Hi Joe. What info.are you looking for on getting a GM3800 SuperCharger out of Australia ?. I live in Adelaide where the Holdens are assembled. The motors are built in Melbourne,Victoria (450miles) to the South and railed over. I do know that the NEW "Monaro"(RWD Coupe)is selling like hell and the SuperCharged V6 is hard to get. Holdens recently signed a deal with Pontiac to sell this Monaro rebadged as a GTO for your 2003 model release. If you can wait,you maybe able to source a SuperCharger from Pontiac later this year. Currently the exchange rate is in your favour. $1.00 US buys about $1.85 Australian.

 

[1BAD80]

I have a new supercharger.

 

[Joe S]

Barry
That is great news do you know if your auto salvage yrds would have a late model wreck with the 3800 SC with the 5 or 6 speed behind it and what they may get or a phone# to such a yard.
1bad80 what do you have for a Supercharger is it just the blower or a full motor?

 

[Barry.M]

Joe. I will do some investigation for you over the next few days and find out availability and prices on late model units. I will also track down some phone # etc. for you to make contact yourself. What do you have in mind for shipping ?.
Here are a couple of contact Phone #and websites, which maybe of some help to get you started.RARE SPARES,(61)(8) 8244 1444.Fax 61)(8)8244 8777, www.rarespares.com.au .City Dismantlers,(61)(8) 8349 6300,www.citydismantlers.com.au . These motors came out in our "Commodore" model VR,VS,VT,and various luxury models as well. Hope this gives you something to work with...Cheers.

 

[1meancuda]

So have the 3800's that came in Buick Grand Nationals even been considered in this thread?? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

 

[Crosleycrazy1]

Hey Barry the link came up as a Doll Sight!
Zach - the Grand National would be a great power plant - I wish I had room for one in the Crosley!!

 

[Joe S]

Well I am still doing research but so far I have learned that the bellhousing pattern on the 3800 is the same as most other Fwd 2.8,3.1 & 3.4 also the old S10 and Camaro 2.8.(RWD) The fly wheel on the 3800 Sc has a balance all of its own, but you can have a flywheel from a reg 3800 re-balanced. The bellhousing pattern is different than the old 3.8 olds like the grand nationals.

 

[canadiancarnut]

i don't think you mentioned anything about the Pontiac Grand Prix with the 3.8L supercharged. It is a very nice car, but like you said before, you want RWD and the grand prix just won't give you that.

 

[Barry.M]

Hi JoeS. Have been checking into availability of 3800 S.C. for you in Adelaide. None arround in Salvage yards at this time. As soon as they become available, there gone. You could try contacting Holdens direct for a crate motor. Sorry Crozleycrazy1 about the website address,I made a mistake. It should be www.rarespares.net.au,....Cheers !!.