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For me it was when they trashed the office in thier old place by driving thier SUV into it. A total waste. Too much fame and money and no way to deal with it. Novelty wore off about 3 years into it. I do have a friend of mine has another interesting show based in Las Vegas. Counting Cars. A slightly different approach to reality TV. !!
 

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I enjoyed the first number of episodes when they actually built motorcycles, they "jumped the shark" YEARS ago and I never watched it again.

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It seemed to me the actual fabricators were Rick Petko and Vince DiMartino.
I would have to agree. Rick and Vince both got caught in the drama of the whole thing. I think they both did a good job keeping the right attitude in spite of it all. The Teutels dont really know how lucky they are to have 2 good men like that.
I watched it when it first came out, but I got sick of the Drama.
The family is disfunctional, Senior is an alcoholic that stopped working his program, at least his actions would say that, and the son , Jr. was a party dog and a total pre maddona when it came time to show up and work. In the real world , any boss would have fired him long before senior and him had a split up.
My Hopes are they can both grow up, act like men, admit and accept resposibility for there own part in all the disfunctionality of it all.
The one thing that worked out well, was that Jr. Got to be his own boss so he could see what his dad was talking about when it comes to managing a work place. He just didnt have to work like his dad did to build it from nothing like the old man did.
 

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Drama queens

I hated American Chopper. All the money in the world, all the tools and machines, HUGE shop, and all those clowns do is gripe, fight, and complain with each other. I don't even care if any of it was real, or it was all just phoney drama. It SUCKED.
Jesse James has better shows. He actually makes stuff himself. He is a skilled metal craftsman. I like watching him hand-make parts. He got a bad wrap for the Sandra Bullock thing, but I don't care what he does with his personal life. He may be a horn-dawg, but he builds cool stuff. The biker build-off with the Tuetels was ridiculous. Jesse's bike won hands-down. Senior built a movie-prop, and Junior built a piece of flashy-ART. Jesse was the only one that built an actual BIKE that you would want to ride. Good riddance American Chopper. I can't believe that show lasted as long as it did. Sad reflection on society. Some people like drama. Not me.
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I think drama is more entertaining for a show that tries to draw in an audience into the realm of bike building. I like their bikes but they were kind of gimmicky. I didn't like them in the bike build offs when they were just orchestrating the build and "designing" the bikes and clearly you can tell he was posing for the camera by tighting up a few bolts to show he's working on the bike, but I didn't buy it. I didn't respect that all that much, but Jr does have good taste. I liked when Billy Lane was on the bike build off and did everything by hand and got tanked the whole time. That's a true builder in my mind but other "designers" seemed to try to give the impression that Billy was a hack. Whatever, I thought his bike was sick with the hubless wheel. He pretty much innovated that I heard.
 

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I hated American Chopper. All the money in the world, all the tools and machines, HUGE shop, and all those clowns do is gripe, fight, and complain with each other. I don't even care if any of it was real, or it was all just phoney drama. It SUCKED.
Jesse James has better shows. He actually makes stuff himself. He is a skilled metal craftsman. I like watching him hand-make parts. He got a bad wrap for the Sandra Bullock thing, but I don't care what he does with his personal life. He may be a horn-dawg, but he builds cool stuff. The biker build-off with the Tuetels was ridiculous. Jesse's bike won hands-down. Senior built a movie-prop, and Junior built a piece of flashy-ART. Jesse was the only one that built an actual BIKE that you would want to ride. Good riddance American Chopper. I can't believe that show lasted as long as it did. Sad reflection on society. Some people like drama. Not me.
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i agree with every word you said
at least jj actually knows how to make something.
not just writing checks to farm out every single aspect of a build.
i never saw any tuetels with a tool in hand.
 

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exactly

at least jj actually knows how to make something.
not just writing checks to farm out every single aspect of a build.
i never saw any tuetels with a tool in hand.
EXACTLY.

That is why they have a reputation as being "cake decorators".
It's an insult. Nothing to be proud of.

The Tuetels are good at one thing: opening boxes and crates of stuff that they order.

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I was into COUNTING CARS for awhile.
It's funny how Danny runs-down people in the street and asks them if they would consider selling their ride. Some people are kinda nervous about that, which is understandable. Maybe they think he wants to rob them.
Danny sure does have a huge car collection.
I heard his full name is Danny Coker. Is he related to those Coker Tire clowns? ( That would explain where he gets the money to buy all his cars and bikes he has )
 

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They're all a waste of time! American Chjopper, Jesse James, Counting Cars, Fast and Loud, etc. They're all trumped up drama, and any of it that's real just detracts from really building anything, or the audience learning from the build process.
I stopped watching anything Jesse James did back when he had Monster Garage, and from what I hear his new show Austin Speed Shop is just more drama filled TV.
As much as I'd love to see a really good car show, I have given up hope it will ever happen.
 

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Don't think we will ever see real hands on custom built cars.. Let people see how things are really done... All the little hands on secret's to a true custom build..NO DRAMA !!!!!:nono:

But we know they can't (or won't) do it...:smash:
 

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I think some of them custom Interior shop's would do some good show's.. I like watching Gabe when he does some of his work.. Just slow it down a little and show people how they do thing's..I don't think they would do a show on gabe because he's a family man with no DRAMA..
 

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Thing is, a good quality car show that deals with the tech side of things would not get watched....OK, maybe by the real gearheads.....But those numbers wont pay the bills......So, what you get instead are drama shows or ones that are just pushing a product......
 

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You have to remember the average joe wont know why or care about why it takes x hours to properly fit Fiberglass bodies on after market frames or why block sanding is still so important or why adv or retard cam timing changes where and how the car makes power. if every knew how to weld id have another job, we are the minority as far as television viewers that's why we have this junk to watch but for some one who has never turned a wrench they feel like a bike builder in a novels for 30 mins
 
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