Henry, I think oldred was directing that comment towards our beloved troll. :welcome: Also troll (is it ok if I call you troll? Wait... trolls opinions aren't even taken seriously around here) are you going to criticize and whine at TwistedMinis now for building his own English Wheel for less than a fraction of the price of buying one NEW?? My god, it makes so much sense shelling out 4 times the price for something that you can make by yourself and still have it be as good as the new product that just happens to be more than 4 times as expensive. I guess Twisted is just showing off around here. He's got nothing better to do but belittle people, duh!