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This may not be what you think it is.
The city I live in is trying to pass a non-smoking ordinance for restaurants and business's. It was passed by the city council once and re-called and now will go to the voters in Nov. Before we go to far the issue I'm asking about is not weather its a good law or not, I don't want to get into that discussion. The problem is the way they have it worded.
The first line in the ordinance says blah, blah"smoking will be prohibited in public places, including enclosed areas of city owned buildings" blah,blah..
Now my problem with this is what is a public place? Is a sidewalk not a public place, a street, a park, a parking lot??? The way I read this law it will effectively ban smoking in the entire city except in your own home or car. Are they going to ban smoking entirely within the city limits??
Tell me what you think this says, if you read this the same way I do.

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my city

Went smoke free last year.
There was some *****ing at first but it's slowed down considerably.
Public place means any enclosed building or City owned property.
That's what is defined here.
There are outdoor decks at some bars that allow smoking but not many.
The whole Province is to be smoke free next year.
 

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Good idea to ban smoking

Its about time something was done about the stink of smoking in public. I say make the country smoke free.


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Here in Columbus they have done the same thing, it's going to a vote in Nov.

I'm a non-smoker, but I do feel there should be a choice, as it is already, per-establishment as to provide smoking/non smoking facilities, or just one or the other.

Just imagine this: It's against the law to be drunk in public. Now it's going to be illegal to smoke inside the bar. So what's gunna happen? I can see it now.....a paddywagon pulls up to the side of a drinking establishment and arrests everyone that's smoking for being drunk in public. Hmmm.....Is is just me or does this just seem like a way for municipalities to make easy money?
 

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Re: Good idea to ban smoking

tm454 said:
Its about time something was done about the stink of smoking in public. I say make the country smoke free.


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AMEN and AMEN!

San Antonio is is almost all SMOKE FREE. There is not much growling about it, albeit, the first few months were a bit hectic but after it was excepted by the majority of the citizenship, things are running quitely.

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Its about time something was done about the stink of smoking in public. I say make the country smoke free.

I hate to smell cigarette smoke, that said. I can say this.
Why should anybody in a this country be for banning anything?
Whats next McDonalds burgers? they will kill you. Hell ban diesel trucks they stink. I could go on all day but I wont. Hell maybe I should just change and be pro ban, maybe Carl Marx system can work.
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i say dont ban it. these cows around here stink. when farmers spread sh!t in there feilds, that stinks.

fast food kills. twinkies kill. hell, oreos kill.

but heres a real mind trip. air kills you. its toxic. name a person that has died and hasn't breathed air at any point of there life.




:pimp: let 'em smoke :pimp:
 

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We've had the same laws here for about 10 years. Restaurants haven't suffered, coffee business in the morning is down though. Bars have gone belly up, some ignore the laws to survive or build patios. There isn't any smoking in public buildings, or within about 25 feet of the entrance so people don't have to walk through your smoke to enter. Charity gambling events have all but died, casino nights, bingo, etc. I don't like government interference in our lives, I said when they passed this law that fast food businesses would be next, and they were. Obesity will be the next fix-all for our government to work on. I think the business owners should make the decisions, I would go to a smoke free restaurant before a smoking establishment. Bars, drinkers like their smokes. Public buildings should be smoke free, imo. I'd vote against it on principle. Dan
 

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I am a smoker, But i can go hours between smokes. Before my dad passed away, he couldn't sit in a smoky restaurant without gagging on secondhand smoke. So, i say keep the ordinance in restaurants, stores, Etc. But let us smoke in outside venues.




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Bluepen said:
what is a public place? David
David, you can go to the Department where the ordinance was passed and request a copy. In the ordinance, it will provide you with a definition of what a "public place" is.

Originally posted by stu
Public place means any enclosed building or City owned property.
As stu wrote, normally a "public place" is defined as any enclosed building or structure or property which is owned by the city, state, village or federal government. Again, a full definition will be included in the ordinance document that your city passed relative to no smoking in a public place.

Personally, I'd get a copy if I were you.
 
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