I find that most times theres an arguement its among pro's and their BOTH right and Both wrong.and usualy its just a simple misunderstanding or interpitation of a punctuation mistake.I feel theres "much to learn" by just listining to what their saying because its just like a debate.But once the name calling starts all the learning and views from BOTH sides ends.threats are just rediculous,name calling sounds childish and once it starts,nobody wants to go back unless they want more.it makes us all look bad. lets try to lead by example and act respectfull of all members after all were all rodders,the only time my dad and I EVER got along was when we worked together on an old car. Cars should be the one thing that bridges all gaps in generations and cultures, people from other countries are members.So lets at least make an effort to act like professionals and lead by example even though were not face to face... and "enjoy" . I'm still a new guy, here, and on the computor.but I see great potential here.and I'm trying to do MY part...Jon I didnt know how often this subject of pricing has been brought up,it was my first time seeing it, as is everything.sorry but argueing is a waste of time and I see no need to visit "wiki "just the one time I was suspended ,still dont know why. "politics"