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My computer, 700 MHZ, windows xp professional, ~350 mb of ram, 10 gig HD which is a few years old (prolly form 2000 or '01) exceopt for some ram and a graphics card, lately has just randomly gone to standby mode and the only way to being it back is to push and hold the on button until it shuts off, unplug it for a minute, plug 'er back in and tuth it on again. What is wrong with the jap crap on my desk?

A buddy of mine says that the motherboard is fried, I decided to ask what you guys thought. I ran virus=scan, spyware, you name it, and it still goes to standby.
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Maybe it's time to hot rod your computer. Throw in a fully blueprinted and balanced Pentium 3 or 4 with atleast 10:1 100Gig Hard drive, and dual speakers. :D
 

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you have a very similar problem that i do, only mine shuts of all by itself then she restarts herself! i cant figure it out.. crappy thing is it can go a week without doing it then do it 4 times in one night. or it can do it every night in a week. ugh i hate computers.
 

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My brother is a guru on these.Mine coughs andhe makes it well.I am lucky.The last time if I had to pay someone time(he worked on it 12 hours straight)then it would have been cheaper to buy another one.




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Check the power supply and replace the motherboard "coin" battery. Might want to clean the case, it's likely full of dust...that can cause overheating problems.

There are no bad computers, users on the other hand...

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4 Jaw Chuck is right. It's probably full of dust. Take it out to your shop and take off the cover. Blow it out with air. Make sure you blow out the power supply and heat sinks (big chunks of finned aluminum) as well. Keep the pressure somewhat low (maybe 40 psi).

Could be a virus too but it sounds more like heat. Another question, do you smoke a lot around your computer? That's really bad for your computer too :)

My grandma smokes like a chimney and goes through a motherboard about every 18 months. Same kind of failure mode.


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I don�t think that your motherboard is fired, if it was, your computer would not work at all, or at the very least the problem would be consistent.
Sounds like an over heating issue to me or a virus, clean it out and make sure the fans are all working, a fan is a very cheap and easy fix.

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Why dont you just turn power saving off?

In XP go to start: settings: control panel

Then select performance and maintenance: Power Options

Then select turn off monitor = never : Turn off HardDrives = never.

Then go to the "hybernate" tab and make sure it is NOT selected.


Also make sure you go into the bios and turn off all the power saving options.

Also please make sure your monitor cable isnt just hanging on there and comes loose sometimes. seen it before.
 

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MOOK II is dead!

mook I is at my brother's father-in-laws, I think it's blowed. That's another story, and is my parent's old computer, similar specs as mine but with 128MB of ram. They got a new onw a month or 2 ago, and that's what I'm using right now.

MOOK II, my computer, won't start up anymore, showing the screen that has BIOS info and stuff, and of course it won't show the screen that has the HP logo on it and have the windows xp loading screen.

The ram count is 392mb; a 256+128mb ram chips, not 350 as I said above. It has a GeForce 4 video card I installed with the 256mb ram chip back in june, and I cleaned everything out.

I replaced the coin battery, and then it said something about "80 cable not connected" a couple of startup tries and then she would go no more.

*****I'm getting a Compaq Presario with an AMD Sempron, 40GB hard drive, and 256mb of ram. How would I transfer info from my old hard drive (10 GB) to the new one? I took A+ certification classes in high school and so I'm fairly knowledgeable with the hardware aspect of things. I'd also like to use that 10Gb hard drive as a "slave" (secondary) drive to boot. How would I remove "broken windows XP" off the 10Gb?*****

any opinions or advice on how to do this would be VERY helpful
thanks guys

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Maybe it's time to hot rod your computer. Throw in a fully blueprinted and balanced Pentium 3 or 4 with atleast 10:1 100Gig Hard drive, and dual speakers. :D
I went from 128 to 392mb of ram and added a video card and new(er) speakers back in June.

4 Jaw Chuck said:
Check the power supply and replace the motherboard "coin" battery. Might want to clean the case, it's likely full of dust...that can cause overheating problems.
The power supply is awful full of yucky dust, I blew the motherboard and stuff out when I got the computer last year (from my brother as repayment on a loan, and he got it used, and before that guy rent-a-center had it). I also cleaned it out when I hotrodded it.

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Chevelle-------Stay off those porn sites:D
i don't go to porn sites; i'm a church boy so I do what I can at bikini babe sites and the stuff when i'm not here. hey, i don't have a girlfriend anymore, and the last couple months of it I felt neglected alot, and she "needed space". Well, she had a point- if we didn't see each other, we'd call. And I was all worrying since I had no job at the time and all, and she didn't like how I rambled on and on about cars and engines and hotrodding all the time, so I put the brakes on that, but I feel the damage was already done.

i'm giving her some space, and maybe we'll be together again, i'm seeking "online counseling" from certain people. with a gf I wouldn't need to look at hotties online, and I could look at her and hold and talk to and kiss and mushy stuff like that with her to boot.
 

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TOOOOO Much info!:eek:

If your computer says "80 pin connector not connected" that means your hard drive cable is not seated correctly, you must have knocked it out of the connector slightly. The last thing you should do before you put the side covers back on any computer is make sure everything is seated on the motherboard and the peripherals. Didn't you say you were Microsoft A+ certified?:confused:

I still say your power supply is cooked, they don't last forever. Don't buy a cheap one, get one that is UL listed and CSA approved. Most aren't, I've seen a few fires from the cheap ones.

BTW I'm D minus certified.:D
 
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I have to agree with 4-Jaw. I think it is the power supply and the cable is loose. Those cables come loose very easy, unless you want it loose, then they won't come out at all. LOL I had a computer several years ago that was real slow, then it would actually slow down even more. I had to take the cover off and spray some of that canned air at the processor and blow out the power supply to get it to work at it's regular speed again. I finally got a new one when my wife needed it to do some stuff for work. She then agreed how slow it really was.

NOTE**** If you have a dog or cat, the dust and fur will really build up in one, and need to be cleaned regularly.

You can believe me. I'm certified also, but that is another story. LOL
 

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NOTE**** If you have a dog or cat, the dust and fur will really build up in one, and need to be cleaned regularly.
Here's another little trick I have learned, most cooling fans draw air into the case...this is what fills them with dust and fur etc.

I reverse all the cooling fans on my computers so they blow in then I make a quick filter out of those little filters you put in the floor registers, I cut them and fold them into a pillow shape and with a few pieces of velcro attach them to the fan intake on the back of the case.

In most PC cases the case fan blows directly across the CPU and motherboard which aids cooling of these critical components and the extra pressure in the case helps out the power supply fan which always suck air from inside the case.

I have a long hair cat and the case vent slots were always getting plugged with fur not to mention the junk that got sucked inside by the case fan, now air is drawn from the back of the case and the filter is large enough that I only have to replace it every couple of years. My CD-ROM always seemed to have tufts of fur around the cut-out and tray until I performed this mod.

My case interior is now shiny and clean and according to my CPU temp monitor in the bios, CPU temps actually dropped 5 degrees Celcius. Honestly I don't know why they don't build them this way from the factory, they could sell the case filters for 5$ each?:drunk:
 

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I don't want to come across as one of those pretentious know it alls but up until last month when I took a job with another company, I designed PC's for a living for one of the big OEM's. I do laptops but I've done desktops in the past too.

What 4 Jaw Chuck is describing as a modification is a little risky at least with a newer cpu. If you keep your house at a reasonable temperature (room temperature) you probably aren't going to see any problems and keeping dust out will be the greater benefit.

However, if you let it get warm in your house (say 80 or so) you're looking for trouble. 4 Jaw didn't mention the CPU fan in particular but definitely do not change how that fan works. The second most critical part is the video card if you have a high performance one. These get wicked hot.

The reason we don't build them that way is that we engineer them for 40 degrees C + 10%. That's pretty warm and the case and fans are without a doubt engineered to perform to that level. If you change them in any way, they won't. Technically this would negate your warranty but the chances of any OEM calling you on it are very slim.

To add a filter would require changes in fans, heatsinks and shrouds which would add pretty significantly to the cost. Adding a buck of cost in the computer world is generally a big no no.

Anyway, that's probably way more than you wanted to know and yes I think it's your power supply too. Keeping dust and hair out will definitely help but I do it by blowing the case out occasionally. Of course my computer is a 3 GHz, 2 GB of RAM, with the latest monster video card and quite a few drives (430GB and DVD-R, DVD combo) so it gets pretty warm. How's that for hot rodded? :)


Later....

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Nice to know Wally, I should put a thermocouple inside the case and see what the difference is. The bios CPU temp is only one part of the equation to be sure, since the fan now blows directly across the video card and over the CPU I think there should be a net benefit.

Of course extensive testing is the only way to know for sure, thanks for your insider input.:)
 

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No problem. Glad you didn't think I was hacking on you. In most homes dust, hair and maybe smoke are far worse enemies than the temp. Your solution should work pretty well. I'm considering some sort of box for my grandmother since she rifles through motherboards like they were free (well, I guess they are to her) due to the amount smoking she does.

Your BIOS reading is plenty accurate the only problem is that while you're looking at it in setup the cpu isn't doing much. In any case, I wouldn't worry too much, your system will step itself down and even shut down if it needs too.

Of course you could go off the deep end like some gamers I've seen who've set their computer next to the air conditioning vent and ducted it directly into the case :) I guess that would count as filtered air too....

Later...

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the old HD is a slave in the new box; I gutted the old computer of ram and disk drives, and I'm going to give it the bernz-o-matic torch treatment, lol.

As far as me "providing too much info" I'm just being honest, and I'm sure most of you guys have some snap-on calendar with bikini girls in the garage.

The power supply was awful full of dust, which probably insulated the heat in and made toast out of itself.

I probably bumped the 80-pin cable loose to the HD when I put in a new "coin" battery.

The RAM, cd drives and floppy drive worked great, so those are spared from the torch. Motherboard, power supply, and case- torched. I'll post pics in a new thread when I get around to it.:smash: The front part of the case is plastic, and to minimize the plastic burnt, i'm not torching the front cover of the pc. That's going straight to the landfill.
 

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Aww man, that could have made a nice Linux server for...stuff that you want to share and stuff :). Old computers should never die, they should be networked and put to good use!

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