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Here is the best shrinking disc for the money: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shri...emQQcategoryZ43998QQihZ002QQitemZ120088454278
Forget about the serrated one.
Metalman21
Here is the best shrinking disc for the money: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shri...emQQcategoryZ43998QQihZ002QQitemZ120088454278
Forget about the serrated one.
Metalman21
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Actually that is not the best shrinking disc for the money.... but we are not supposed to post commercial links here.
Edit: That link is to Wray Schelin, a real inovator, not a pirate like the other two guys on ebay.
John
Edit: That link is to Wray Schelin, a real inovator, not a pirate like the other two guys on ebay.
John
I have bought from both John and Wray and they are stand up fellows.
The idea with a shrinking disk is to create heat,not grind IMO,so the smooth,low crown is what I prefer. The high crown is for more contoured panels where a flat or low crown will not make good contact.
Like SPI products. Good persons and products to use and deal with.
Mike.
The idea with a shrinking disk is to create heat,not grind IMO,so the smooth,low crown is what I prefer. The high crown is for more contoured panels where a flat or low crown will not make good contact.
Like SPI products. Good persons and products to use and deal with.
Mike.
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Another vote for John Kelly, I have his flat disc and just ordered a low crown disc...Eric
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John Kelly wrote:
In trying to answer DougMN's question you make that statement and don't offer any reasons to back it up?
Here is what I know about it and I tryed to pass along a good answer based on my experience and maybe save someone from buying 2 discs to get one good one, like I did.
First disc, bought off Ebay not knowing of any others, (not from Mr. Kelly, don't remember who): 18G stainless, the flange was kind of rough, the depression for the retaining nut wasn't large enough or deep enough and the nut protruded from the disc surface. Did it work? Yes.
Second disc, bought from Wray Schelin: 16G stainless, safety flange is perfect, larger and deeper depression for the retaining nut. Runs truer and smoother than the first one. Does it work? Yes, much better.
What's the difference in cost? I think they are about the same but I would always pay more for a better tool especially if I can just buy it once.
Metalman21
John Kelly wrote:
Are you referring to Wolfsmetal or Wray? Okay so is that to say yours is the best? If it is why?
In trying to answer DougMN's question you make that statement and don't offer any reasons to back it up?
Here is what I know about it and I tryed to pass along a good answer based on my experience and maybe save someone from buying 2 discs to get one good one, like I did.
First disc, bought off Ebay not knowing of any others, (not from Mr. Kelly, don't remember who): 18G stainless, the flange was kind of rough, the depression for the retaining nut wasn't large enough or deep enough and the nut protruded from the disc surface. Did it work? Yes.
Second disc, bought from Wray Schelin: 16G stainless, safety flange is perfect, larger and deeper depression for the retaining nut. Runs truer and smoother than the first one. Does it work? Yes, much better.
What's the difference in cost? I think they are about the same but I would always pay more for a better tool especially if I can just buy it once.
Metalman21
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I bought the one from Wray and it works fantastic! No flex and does exactly what he siad it would do. The how to video is dead on. Wray is a stand up guy and after talking with him for the first time it was like I knew him for years. Can't go wrong with Wrays disc. JMO of course.
Cheers!!
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Hi Metalman 21,
Wrays makes a very nice shrinking disc. I made them that way for several years before he started. I got the idea for a flat disc from him in the first place, and decided to make it with a 90 degree flange instead of the hemmed edge he suggested.
After I did all of the destructive testing, and made sure they worked better than the original, started producing them, and sold over 200 of them, he started making the same disc for sale. Now three different guys are making them like that including Wray. Wray is not a pirate but the other two guys are. He came up with the flat surface shrinking disc concept. I recommend him to people in one of my videos and on various forums, and albums.
Since then, I stopped making the flat disc. I make a low crowned disc which is superior in that it can do things the flat disc cannot. It will shrink truly flat surfaces, shallow valley/reverses, as well as low and high crowned panels.
I have put in more time than anyone else developing new uses for the shrinking disc and sharing my ideas with others. Teaching people how to use them, and how to make them for free. I won't post my web site, but I'm sure you can find it. I have several albums on various uses of the shrinking disc for dent repair and custom metal shaping.
And to respond more fully to your claim... my disc comes with an instructional video and still sells for less than anyone elses including shipping. Maybe now you see why I contradicted you.
John
Wrays makes a very nice shrinking disc. I made them that way for several years before he started. I got the idea for a flat disc from him in the first place, and decided to make it with a 90 degree flange instead of the hemmed edge he suggested.
After I did all of the destructive testing, and made sure they worked better than the original, started producing them, and sold over 200 of them, he started making the same disc for sale. Now three different guys are making them like that including Wray. Wray is not a pirate but the other two guys are. He came up with the flat surface shrinking disc concept. I recommend him to people in one of my videos and on various forums, and albums.
Since then, I stopped making the flat disc. I make a low crowned disc which is superior in that it can do things the flat disc cannot. It will shrink truly flat surfaces, shallow valley/reverses, as well as low and high crowned panels.
I have put in more time than anyone else developing new uses for the shrinking disc and sharing my ideas with others. Teaching people how to use them, and how to make them for free. I won't post my web site, but I'm sure you can find it. I have several albums on various uses of the shrinking disc for dent repair and custom metal shaping.
And to respond more fully to your claim... my disc comes with an instructional video and still sells for less than anyone elses including shipping. Maybe now you see why I contradicted you.
John
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By God I'll post your sight John .
http://www.ghiaspecialties.com/
The spi pushers post bakers sight all the time so I see no difference.
Also I have not used the disc and only know John from other forums.
Take Care
Earl
www.ranchero65.com
http://www.ghiaspecialties.com/
The spi pushers post bakers sight all the time so I see no difference.
Also I have not used the disc and only know John from other forums.
Take Care
Earl
www.ranchero65.com
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Ad policy
Heavens guys..If any of you use or know of a product, service or tool that works well in the shops you are certainly welcome to say so..
What we do here with the ad policy is try and prevent guys from turning this place into their private e-bay or craigs list..
Nuff said
Sam
Heavens guys..If any of you use or know of a product, service or tool that works well in the shops you are certainly welcome to say so..
What we do here with the ad policy is try and prevent guys from turning this place into their private e-bay or craigs list..
Nuff said
Sam
I have Johns disc.. great piece of craftsmanship and an outstanding person to deal with.. I would recommend anyone use his products he offers.. It will also come with a page of instructions for someone who does not have any idea of how to use it, or even if you do, you may pick up a few tips
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