[72novapowerhouse]

I am trying to figure out where to mount my speakers and tweeters besides the door panels and in the back window. But i cant find a good spot.

 

[capricewagon]

what kinda speakers do you have.

Where were the factory speakers mounted if there were any.

Is it a component set or coaxils?

 

[johnnymopar]

either mount them in the back dash or surface mount them in boxes on the back dash.

JB

 

[meanmachine666]

first off what type of car are we dealing with?
Going by your handle it would be a 72 nova but that may not be the case.
there are alot of places you can mount speaker for better sound then in the door panels.
it will also depend on the brand of speaker you are wanting to mount.
let me know the brand of speakers and the type of car and I will be glad to help you plan out you system.
feel free to P.M. me or e-mail me

 

[Dave E Shank]

HEY 72: Checkout www.custom-autosound.com They have some new ideas.... GOODLUCK DAVE

 

[5.0Towncar]

Geez Capricewagon. What big picture you have. The better to get seen with, he replies. Steve

 

[4 Jaw Chuck]

Roof liner, preferably not hanging in the line of sight by the lead wires.

 

[capricewagon]

Originally posted by 5.0Towncar:
<strong>Geez Capricewagon. What big picture you have. The better to get seen with, he replies. Steve</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah is there anyway to size that down? I've been meaning to ask someone about that.

But, back to the topic...

I was also gonna say that really the back speakers aren't nearly as important as how you place the front ones. Alot of the people that I talk to that enter in SQ competitions rarely even use back speakers, and if they do they very rarely have the crossovers set so that your here very much of em.

The reason for this is that when designing a system to sound good you always want it to sound natural, like it would at a concert. If you were at a concert most of the sound would be comming from in front of you and very little sound comming from behind you. If you rear speakers are drowing or even competing with the front speakers at all(as far as loudness is concerned) then you are doing more harm with the speakers than you would without them, as far as sound quality is concerned. And bass is usually omni present usually you shouldn't be able to tell where the bass is comming from, and should definatly not be too overpowering.

But then again who am I to talk, I like mine as loud as possable with overly heavy bass.

So if you arent planning on entering it into a competition I would suggest just mounting them in the door or possibly in a piller. It will be heard. and it will sound ahellovalot better than stock.

I would also like to make a suggesting of powering what ever you get by an external amplifier. (It will make a world of difference in sound)

 

[meanmachine666]

I am not sure how they run ISA comp in GA but the rules state that all comp systems have surround sound.
I own a shop in texas and also do some custom work here in indiana.
but I am willing to help anyone with building or installation matters.
That is why it is best to find out what type of music the person likes and how loud they plan on hearing it.
plus you do not want that rattle in your ride that you so often hear when the bass is pumping.

 

[capricewagon]

Yeah what kind of music they listen too is a big factor.

I was going by what I have heard from guys on termpro so I don't know what state they run in.

Glad to see this site has a stereo specialist on call

 

[jpd37]

This is a great discussion on auto sterio. I have a 37 Plymouth and I have been doing some basic experimenting to try to get even a halfway decent sound system in my rod. Is it an essential requirement to have an independant amp? I get the idea it is. The comment regarding non-directional bass that cannot be pinpointed by the listener sounds right, but how is that done in a antique four door like mine? I was thinking it could go under the back seat, but the seat padding would probably muffle the sound too much to be effective. My doors are only about 2 1/2" thick and small by today's standards. The rear deck is only about 6"-7" deep and the dash is a flat vertical thing without adequate space for much more than the necessary gauges and switches. The side kick panels ahead of the front doors is large enough for one 6 x 9. I have those in and I have backed them up with a little sound deadening mat to reduce the sound emmitted thru the body panel. I'm new to doing this kind of stuff and my budget is tight. I don't want a state of the art system, just one I can hear as I drive to the next street rod show. I'd be grateful for any tips. I don't mean to but into your discussion Novapowerhouse, but the discussion may be helpful for both of us. Thanks for the space.

 

[capricewagon]

No having an exernal amp is not a nessecity. I prefer to have an external amplifier as apposed to running it off the headunit though. Mostly cause it gets louder and sounds better to my ears.

But seeing as how I am not familiar with the inside of anything made in 37, I would like to know.

Is it an open airspaced car like a hatchback/SUV? or is there an actuall trunk?

Is that an actuall pic of it? are you trying to keep the interior original looking or is it custom. do you have a pic of the interior?

What kind of music do you listen to?

And as far as managing your space meanmachine666 probably could help you more than I can. I am good at being logical as far as system design but I am not a professional installer by anymeans.

 

[meanmachine666]

jpd37
what type of music do you like?
there are some options in your 37 Ply. the center channel found on most high end head units will give you the equal bass sound you are looking for.
But rather then design a system that may be out of your budget let me hear what you have picked up so far and a price range you want to stay in.
also how you listen to your music. ie loud, noraml or just something to drown out the wife and kids.
you can build a nice sounding system for low money if you plan out the system first and look for good deals on good brands/
If you want to send me an e-mail or P.M. me.
[email protected]

 

[jpd37]

The 37 Ply looks similar to the photo except it is a four door sedan and it has a trunk. I listen to a wide range of music but most of the time it is jazz, country and blues. I do like it a little on the loud side, but not so loud that it is noticable to the car in the next lane. I have a very inexpensive off brand (cann't remember the name) radio/CD player that is rated at 160 watts output at 4 ohms. It has a speaker lead for a subwoofer plus L/R speakers. The car cabin is large and the car lacks good sound deadening of drive train noise. Door and window seals are very poor and wind noise is significant at speeds over 60. My budget is limited to about $300 at the moment, but I can always build on good basics with time. Thanks for the advice.

 

[meanmachine666]

jpd37 check you e-mail sent you some infor.

 

[Don Meyer]

Great topic, glad we have some expert help. I am having problems w/where to install speakers. The equipment I am planing to purchase from Etronics is:
1 Alpine head unit.
2. 5 1/4" infinity speakers(reference series)
3. 5" x 7" infinity rear speakers
The car is a Rolls Royce Silver Shadow that has a new leather interior(I do not want to put a hole in the door & the kick panel does not have room.

I listen to a soft music played not too loud.

Will the sound be acceptable if I mount the front speakers under the dash & the rear on the rear package tray? Also if you have recommendations on the equipment let me know...Don

[ January 30, 2003: Message edited by: Don Meyer ]</p>

 

[meanmachine666]

Don
the speakers you have are great. the under the dash will cut down on the full effect of sound mainly because it will be facing the floor and not you.
I understand not wanting to cut into the door panels. What year is your silver shadow?

 

[Don Meyer]

The Rolls is a 1966 which was the first yr for the Shadow. It was a unitized car that I made a frame for-350/700r4/Ford 9"/12" discs....
as for the front speakers they will be pointed rearward. Would it help if I put them in a box? If so what size box ?....thanks
Ps - The RR now has 50% more HP. Can't wait to drive it.

 

[meanmachine666]

the speakers will not need a box . If you plan on just running the speaker off the head unit.
I must have been misinformed on the shadow because my grandfather had a 1939 silver shadow or at least that is what he told me it was of course that was too many years ago for me to recall.
but with the drive train you have it in now I would like to take it a spin.

 

[Don Meyer]

That would of been a Silver Ghost.....Don