[bonuts]

OK, I don't understand. There were 2 topics about drugs. Both I thought were civil, just a discussion. About the legalization of marijuana.

How does this get dumped? So now there is no talking about this stuff either? If thats the case I think this place is getting way to much censorship. If there's not a good reason, I won't be a part of a place like that.

I personally don't touch the stuff, but to dump it because it talked about pot is wrong. How about a answer?


bonuts

 

[killerformula]

yeah really, we're not entitled our opinions unless they match those of the mods?

K

 

[HemmiGremmie]

I had got several complaints and the post was draggin so I dumped it. Cuss me, hit me, beat me, I was tired of gettin reported posts about it. HG

 

[poncho62]

At least I won't get blamed for it this time.................I never got an apology from the last time.........................

 

[bonuts]

But, if theres not a real problem, like drug pushin'. How can it be dumped? Let the people who think it won't exist if we ignore it go. Tell them to get over it. Censorship is no good, especially when nothing was really done wrong.



bonuts

 

[Ghetto Jet]

Dumping that was not a good call, you had well respected members making points against using drugs, thats something that should be left up for the younger members to see. People complained? Then they are over sensative kittys---(yea you know what I mean)

 

[[email protected]]

If you don't like it, go start the discussion on LS1 or one of the other 1,000,000s of other poorly disguised porn sites. Would fit there very well and be received with open arms. And there is no such thing as censorship on this board. No one has a right to say anything here unless Jon says they do. Period. If he gets fed up with it all, it disappears with one key stroke. Then where are your civil rights?

 

[coldknock]

Willys is right fellas. HG was doing right by dumping it. Discussions on that subject almost always end with a big fight, no matter how civil they begin. It just ain't worth having.

Larry

 

[Nightfire]

If the mods wanna dump it they can and there aint nothin' we can do about it....that's the system and if you dont like it you can go to another forum board of stay here and live with it. Its just like they government, they do whatever they want anyways but there aint nothin much you can do except vote every couple of years. Dont like it move out or live with it.

As for smoking pot I never got to really give reasons for why I believe legalizing it would be bad so here goes my last shout:

We have too many deaths cause by people under the influence of alcohole while driving. Too many lifes shattered and broken and too many parents crying late at night when they get the news they're sons/daughters are dead because of an alochol related incident.
Now, do we really wanna double that number with people driving under the influence of drugs?
I don't think so but hey, what do I know, I'm just a teenager that doesnt know anything yet apparently


Mike

 

[helrazr3]

i will say upfront that i did not read the treads in question because i wasn't interested but i must agree with larry and willys that they probably wern't a good idea

as far as i know the threads in the dump are not locked and you can still reply to them so if you want to keep them going go right ahead i don't see that being a problem if i remember correctly the dump was created to put off color threads in not to make them dissapear completely. somebody tell me if i'm wrong

 

[bonuts]

Nothing was done wrong in those posts, I completely disagree with dumping them, thats your calls I guess. Erase whatever is not agreed with by everybody

I don't think I can be a part of this kinda board then. Rubs me the wrong way.



bonuts

 

[4 Jaw Chuck]

Let me get this right, you want to leave a website because you disagree with the removal of a thread regarding illegal drugs?

C'mon, time for a reality check.

 

[bonuts]

No, no, no, I'm going to try and stay away from the Lounge though. Where does this stop Chuck? Starting to delete stuff because it has the potential to get bad???? Does that seem right? Everything could take a turn for the worse, any topic can go bad, don't do it before the fact.

And from what I understand it was dumped because a few people reported it. Not because Jon didn't want it. Seeing as how the rest of you say its Jons house, get Jon to make the tough decisions.

There is nothing wrong with the topics that were started. I mean if your going to start dumping topics like this, when do you dump the Political posts? The ones that whine about whos killing who, does the US need to be in Iraq, etc, etc, etc. Which are in my opinion far worse than people discussing the legalization of Dope. Plus nobody really said it WAS/IS good for you, everybody go get your bongs! The majority said how bad it is.

I believe Jon should get into this, clear things up. Can you, or can you not bring up the use of Dope huh?

And yeah, this is censorship. I can understand dumping the vast majority of the topics in the dump, probably 99% should be there. But don't go dumping something because a few people got upset.


bonuts

 

[killerformula]

sorry poncho. I called you out and I was wrong man.

K:welcome:

 

[4 Jaw Chuck]

Well first off, I never dumped the thread. I am only a moderator in the engine forum and do not have admin rights in that section of the board.

Second, I reported the posts to the other mods because a few of the comments were getting out of hand and the tempers obviously flared. That one reason alone is enough to send a thread to the dump, or get it locked, or have comments deleted from portions of it.

Third, the moderator that dumped the thread did so under his own discretion, in my opinion one bad comment might warrant an edit, two bad comments might get it locked and three strikes...your out of there. But thats me, I support any decision any of the other mods make because we are a team and we are learning to do this job together in the best way possible, there is a considerable amount of experience reflected in this "team" and you and I both know that those threads were going nowhere but down.

Fourth, nobody was reprimanded for comments made in that post and nobody said discussion of the material contained in that post was forbidden on this website. I would suggest that certain members that spoil it for everybody else should refrain from posting inflammatory remarks, I have not pointed any fingers at any person...I don't have to...the evidence is in the thread down below.

Fifth, the word moderator is literal. We ensure that threads don't get out of hand and things are kept relatively PG13, you have to admit we are pretty liberal with that interpretation.

Sixth, one of those threads was posted by a person who has a total of three posts to his name. The word I am thinking of starts with "T" but it escapes right now, perhaps you can have a look at the content and identity of the posters in that thread. Be aware that the mods are privy to IP information that you are not, please give us the benefit of the doubt when we say "time for the dump", there are times you may not know what is good for ya.

Unless of course, you guys/gals would like to visit the guy impersonating a female member issue again? There are a few people here who can vouch for that one! We can let all this moderating business slide again if you like?

Maybe this week I'll be "Cindy"

 

[killerformula]

if you support any decision any other mod makes, what's the point in having more than one mod if you all share the same opinions?!

I'm just giving u a hard time 4j.

K

 

[Kevin45]

I'm gonna be like Kerry on this and make a comment for both sides. I agree it should not have been dumped as it was an interesting thread with viewpoints from both sides. Then all of a sudden someone wants to come in with guns blazing calling everyone this and that and a bunch of morons, etc, etc. So then everyone else gets on the defensive and the Push/Shove starts. When that happened it got dumped. Maybe it shouldn't have but it did. When someone starts the name calling....DO NOT start back in by calling him/her names and lowering yourself down to that level. Hit the ignore button. That is what it is there for. Other than that I even thought it was an interesting thread.

Kevin

 

[Dutchman]

Folks,

I never understand why a perosn has to make a major statement to the whole board when they disagree with a mod. Maybe just to stir others, get others to back them or take something out on a mod.

The mods volunteer to help make this the best posible site and it takes work with some of the folks that visit here.

Why not write the mod and ask your basic question directly?

I think it is always best to confront the source and get a real answer to the questions. Peoples opinions are one thing but signaling out, name calling and abrasive writing has no place anywhere. Like it was said before, everyone has a choice to answer and how they answer. Sometimes no action is the right reaction.

Dutch

 

[trees]

Thanks HG. Good call

Trees

 

[troy-curt]

Yeh, lets get back to talking cars and hotrods. After all this is a hotrod forum, isn't it?

Troy