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Can I Take One Head Bolt At A Time?

3.1K views 21 replies 9 participants last post by  BogiesAnnex1  
#1 ·
I'm rebuilding my engine (first time doing this) and have been taking my time trying to do it right. Today I made a mistake. I thought I had bought Permatex 80632 Thread Sealant but instead bought 80078 Permatex Anti-Seize Lubricant. I used it on the threads of the bolts that went into water and torqued them down. After I got through, I started going over everything I did today and realized that I had used the wrong thing on the threads.

I hate to remove the heads and buy new head gaskets if it isn't necessary and hopefully it won't be.

My question is, can I remove one bolt at a time, clean them up and apply a thread sealant? I'm sure some of the anti-seize will be left in the bolt holes that I won't be able to get out. The bolts are new ARP. The gaskets are Fel-Pro that are recommended to use with AFR heads.

I can't find any of the Permatex 80632 locally so if I'm able to do it one bolt at a time, will any of these pipe thread sealants with PTFE work. Or is there something that I can buy at a local parts store that will work.

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#3 ·
Scott has the right approach. It's better to do it right now and not later after you've assembled everything else and tried to run the engine. Reminds me of when I forgot to put the catalyst in my primer and sprayed my whole hotrod. :rolleyes: Had to sand it all off and start over. Ugh!!! I feel your pain.
 
#5 ·
I hate to come out with another $100 for head gaskets but I guess I'll have to bite the bullet. I can't blame it all on lack of experience but I would have looked at it and known that it wasn't the right stuff if I had done it before. It was just a boneheaded move by me for buying the wrong stuff and not double checking that it was what I thought I bought. Live and learn.

Thanks again guys.
 
#6 ·
Hey, when I put my super dooper 700R4 in several years ago I forgot to stake the front seal. I realized my error after it was bolted up. I decided to take my chances rather than pull it back out while the job was still set up. Now I have a leaking front seal and either need to crank up my 85 year old body to pull the trans myself or take it a shop and spend 300 dollars to have a 15 dollar part replaced.

Bogie
 
#16 ·
Is water leaking past the bolts? If so just put a little stop leak in the radiator.

No need to pull the heads. I had a few bolts leak on a 355 years ago. I drained water out and resealed the bolt(s) that leaked. Ran it again and another bolt or two would leak. Did this a few times and then my engine builder had me put stop leak in. Fixed it. Ran that engine for years and ran bottom 10's and drove it all over on the street.
 
#20 ·
So this is Ford Windsor block!? Surprise, suuprise, soooprise, Sarg!!!

These are not like a Chevy SBC where all of its head outs penetrate into the cooling jackets. The 221-302 block is a mixed bag. The earlier blocks including the 302 are not drilled into the coolant passages. The later blocks only drilled the short bolt holes into cooling passages. If my ancient memory serves Ford started opening the short bolt holes into the cooling jackets in late 1980’s.

This is something to check when building these engines.



Bogie
 
#21 ·
This one is a 1986 casting but I didn't check any date codes to get the actual cast date. It does have the bottom bolt holes that goes into the cooling passages. The 1986 casting is ready for roller cam parts. Well, this one was almost ready. It had holes where the dog bone retainer bolts up but to my surprise when I went to bolt it up there were no threads in the holes. I was nervous about tapping the holes since the cam bearing is at the bottom of it but everything turned out ok. Ford made the 302 with and without the roller cam for several years so this is something to be on the lookout for if building one.
 
#22 ·
If the engine hasn’t been run your existing head gasket is probably fine to reuse.

The late 80’s were a weird time as the OEM’s were gearing up for roller cams. These engines require some study befor jumping in so as you have some idea of tge changes that might or not be in there and to what extent they are or are not finished.

I didn’t realize till we were quite a ways in that you’re working on a Windsor and not an SBC, 347 was the trip line on that.

Bogie