What do you feel would be the cheapest (and possibly easiest) way to 800 hp?

The only parameter is it must be durable and repeatable on a regular and indefinite basis. For example, you could take a stock 350 and put gobs of nitrous on it, but it probably wouldn't last very long. i am talking repeatable 1/4 mile passes indefinitely.

Anything else goes---nitrous, blowers, hi-compression etc.


Would finding a BBC from a 3/4 ton or greater truck be a start? i'm thinking the block in stock form, not to mention the crank, may be able to withstand 800hp with no problems?

twin turbo ls?

 

What do you feel would be the cheapest (and possibly easiest) way to 800 hp?

The only parameter is it must be durable and repeatable on a regular and indefinite basis. For example, you could take a stock 350 and put gobs of nitrous on it, but it probably wouldn't last very long. i am talking repeatable 1/4 mile passes indefinitely.

Anything else goes---nitrous, blowers, hi-compression etc.


Would finding a BBC from a 3/4 ton or greater truck be a start? i'm thinking the block in stock form, not to mention the crank, may be able to withstand 800hp with no problems?

Cheap easy race engine... I have some ocean front property in Arizona.. I'll trade ya!

You been dreaming the dream. Wake up!! It ain't happenin. Unless you find a jealous female offing her husband/boyfriends Pro drag race stuff during a breakup!!

 

cheapest easiest

when you are trying to get 800 HP those two words can not be used in the same sentance :nono:

you would need to pick one or the other

with cheapest not working with the requirement The only parameter is it must be durable and repeatable

BBC from a 3/4 ton or greater truck the block in stock form, not to mention the crank, may be able to withstand 800hp with no problems?

no, not that much HP

 

Yeah...cheap and 800HP....thats kindof like virtues and prostitues in the same sentence.

My vote would be turbo(s). You can keep RPM down which will help with longevity. However, it will not be cheap since you are looking at an aftermarket longblock to start. You can do it with a carb and a big single turbo, but your still kicking the 10K(+) mark pretty easy once its all set up.

 

supercharged 2007 chevy cobalt hahaha

 

Guys...he didn't say cheap and easy.

He said cheapest and easiest.

I'm thinking the answer might be an aftermarket crate big cube BBC, given he said durable and repeatable.

Obviously, it's going to be some major scratch.

 

Just go with a big inch LS engine with a 200 shot, or a big inch Big Block with a 200 shot. Using nitrous will lower your cost to make that power considerably. you could probably even do it with a hydraulic roller cam and premium pump gas if you wanted to.

 

If you want durability and repeatability, I'd start with something bigger than the 454, like GM's ZZ 572. More cubes means you won't have to go quite as radical with the compression ratio, cam, etc. to get up to those numbers...I would imagine you could make 800 hp with a supercharged or turbocharged 572....

 

Guys...he didn't say cheap and easy.

He said cheapest and easiest.

I'm thinking the answer might be an aftermarket crate big cube BBC, given he said durable and repeatable.

Obviously, it's going to be some major scratch.

Thank you. i know it won't be cheap especially if we want it to last.

About the LS route, please break it down $$$-wise; i noticed in the new summit catalog that they are offering "seasoned" iron LS blocks that they are claiming can take 1500hp for $750! Ok, but what about the crank, rods etc. etc.?

 

I would get a 6.0L iron block either a LQ4, LQ9, or maybe that summit block. then do forged pistons, h beam rods, and a forged 4" crank. That would provide you with a pretty solid bottom end. If it were me I would just run the stock heads with an aftermarket cam and matching springs. Aftermarket intake, throttle body, injectors, ecu, turbos,.... $$$$$$.. but that would be more reliable to me. If you want easy and cheap throw a bunch of spray on a big block and hope it doesn't go BOOM!

 

Thank you. i know it won't be cheap especially if we want it to last.

About the LS route, please break it down $$$-wise; i noticed in the new summit catalog that they are offering "seasoned" iron LS blocks that they are claiming can take 1500hp for $750! Ok, but what about the crank, rods etc. etc.?

Please "break it down $$$-wise" for you?! Really? Did you want us to locate the parts and put it together for you too? Unbelievable.

 

Here ya go....

http://www.bankspower.com/magazines/show/644-800hp-twin-turbo-duramax-crate-engine

or....

http://www.smreperformance.com/procharger-sbc-engine-800hp.html

or....

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/mopar-announces-800-hp-v10-crate-engine-at-sema/

All bargains......

 

what about 700 hp?

I am guessing you have seen this article... 700hp on a budget. Not sure if you can settle for 100 less HP?
700 hp on budget

T

 

496 with aluminum heads, good parts, twin turbo. I built several 496 boats with 800+ with AFR or Brodix heads and 1071 Littlefield blowers and they ran over 1000 hours, many at WOT.
You could use any 454 block 4 bolt mainblock, tall deck like truck is some advantage, use Scat, Ohio Crankshaft, some Eagle stuff is OK.
Turbos, Whipples, centrifugals will make about 200 more than the roots charger get the 800 no problem and live!!!
If it will live in a boat more than a year, it will live in a car for a very long time.
I did a 502 with a blow through Pro Charger (with water to air intercooler) and got an extremely reliable 900@5800 on pump gas.
Choose your parts and you can do this for not too much money. And you could even use iron heads and a GOOD steel GM crank with turbos and Snow water/alcohol and/or intercooler

 

358 sb2.2 NASCAR engine, detuned to run on premium fuel. That, and a mid sized turbo.

 

Please "break it down $$$-wise" for you?! Really? Did you want us to locate the parts and put it together for you too? Unbelievable.

Yes, actually i DO want to you to put it together for me........

i just want different input on this from as many different viewpoints as possible on this topic. Actually, i sort of already priced a small block out; Please see my post "Max power SBC":

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/max-power-sbc-209184.html

 

496 with aluminum heads, good parts, twin turbo. I built several 496 boats with 800+ with AFR or Brodix heads and 1071 Littlefield blowers and they ran over 1000 hours, many at WOT.
You could use any 454 block 4 bolt mainblock, tall deck like truck is some advantage, use Scat, Ohio Crankshaft, some Eagle stuff is OK.
Turbos, Whipples, centrifugals will make about 200 more than the roots charger get the 800 no problem and live!!!
If it will live in a boat more than a year, it will live in a car for a very long time.
I did a 502 with a blow through Pro Charger (with water to air intercooler) and got an extremely reliable 900@5800 on pump gas.
Choose your parts and you can do this for not too much money. And you could even use iron heads and a GOOD steel GM crank with turbos and Snow water/alcohol and/or intercooler

How do you how much power a stock BB can take? For example there are ALOT of 3/4, 1-ton trucks going for cheap. Example say an 85 dually crew cab with 454. Is there a way to verify the power capacity of this engine? I'm Assuming all big blocks have 4 bolt mains?

 

How do you how much power a stock BB can take? For example there are ALOT of 3/4, 1-ton trucks going for cheap. Example say an 85 dually crew cab with 454. Is there a way to verify the power capacity of this engine? I'm Assuming all big blocks have 4 bolt mains?

most common 454 blocks are 2 bolt
cast cranks can go about 500-600 hp
forged crankseven can go higher
aftermarket cranks even more

a good 4 bolt block and aftermarket crank can go 800HP

I would think a big cubic inch BBC with high flowing heads and a shot of nitrous will get you there :thumbup:

 

I'll go again....

Is this a start-from-scratch build? I am assuming, but you know what that does. What are you looking to spend and what do you already have? If you have some big block parts to start it might be the way to go. However, if you start buying and rebuilding you are going to get way up there in cost because you need alot of aftermarket parts and machine work even if you do use factory castings.....for any platform.

 

Cheap easy race engine... I have some ocean front property in Arizona.. I'll trade ya!

You been dreaming the dream. Wake up!! It ain't happenin. Unless you find a jealous female offing her husband/boyfriends Pro drag race stuff during a breakup!!

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the closest thing i can think of is you can take a nissan vg30et heads bolt them to a vg33e block with the vg33er intake and supercharger now you have a twin charged 3.3lt v6 with possibilities through the roof. then you would have to use a z32 trans- because no other transmission would work. and tune it with nistune. factory cheap is as close as i can think of. that is a lot of power for "cheap" bobcrman is right.