hello

Hey Guys, :welcome:
I have spent the last 2 days trying to find a set of plans for a �ROLLBACK� trailer, not a tilt back. I saw where a member, Mr. James Cowen is trying to do the same. If he reads this, I hope he will contact me and let me know how he is doing with it. If anyone know where I can get some plans or photos of the working end, please pass it on. Mr. Cowen is right that we could buy one cheaper, but I am a Disabled Vet. With 19 back surgeries to date and the death of my beautiful wife of 35 years, the completion of a project like this and self gratification is the only thing that keeps me going. As far as time, I have plenty of it and as slow as I move now, I need it all, lol. Like Mr Cowen, I have no plans to mass produce these, just one for me, then it�s on to another project.
PLEASE if anyone can help in anyway, please contact me, PLEASE!!!!BLOCKAIDRUNNER

welcome to the site. Thank you for your service.

I see you have had this up for awhile with no help, I don't know about a roll back trailer, not a thing. But I can help you can go on search and call one up or see if there is anything on the site, or you can start a new thread asking for help with a roll back trailer you might get some help.

Bob

 

I did a search a few days back and found nothing, then forgot about it, I'll give it another go.

 

http://www.trailerplans.com//index....s.com//index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=13&Itemid=2

 

Thanks for the replies on my post, but so far no good

Hey Bob, thanks for your help. I just spent another day trying to find some plans on a ROLLBACK trailer. A lot of people think it’s just a tilt-back, but it’s a lot better than that and after 19 back surgeries, I need the easiest way to load and unload something and ramps are out. I’m still looking and not giving up yet, lol.
You said you didn’t know what a ROLLBACK is, if you care to look, I found a video of it at work, if you care to look at it http://www.kwikload.com/. It is a nice trailer, just wish I could find some plans or some photos of business end of it.
Thanks Bob and everyone else who replied,
Alan (AKA) BLOCKAIDRUNNER

 

Your best bet might be to buy a rollback body from a truck and mount it to a trailer frame. That way you get the hydraulic cylinders, rails, rollers, plumbing, etc. Of course, it might be cheaper still to simply buy a used rollback truck.

 

Rollback trailer

Hey Bob, thanks for your help. I just spent another day trying to find some plans on a ROLLBACK trailer. A lot of people think it�s just a tilt-back, but it�s a lot better than that and after 19 back surgeries, I need the easiest way to load and unload something and ramps are out. I�m still looking and not giving up yet, lol.
You said you didn�t know what a ROLLBACK is, if you care to look, I found a video of it at work, if you care to look at it http://www.kwikload.com/. It is a nice trailer, just wish I could find some plans or some photos of business end of it.
Thanks Bob and everyone else who replied,
Alan (AKA) BLOCKAIDRUNNER

Alan Dinger left a site on his post, check it out. otherwise start a new thread asking for plans. I know what a rollback is, just never saw one made into a trailer.

Bob

 

That's a pretty slick trailer. Stays lower to the ground than a tilt trailer does, so the approach angle is more shallow. All mechanical, so no cylinders, etc required.

Dinger's link is to plans for a tilt trailer.

Hard to figure why he'd need to start a new thread since he started this one looking for rollback trailer plans

 

Thanks for the replies on my post

Hey Guys, :welcome: Thanks again for the replies. Joe, the rollback truck sounds good, but then you have to deal with the Hydraulic mess & cost of pumps, cylinders, controls and hoses ain: . Where a rollback trailer uses none of that. Just a couple of pins and electric brakes, much simpler and a lot less headaches, but thanks for the idea, might have to go that route.

Bob, this is my 1st time on a forum and I do not know how to move around on it like, find the new thread of Alan Dinger . Do I just put his name in and it will come up?
Just want to thank everyone who has responded to this post or thread, please keep them coming, because I’m not ready to throw in the towel yet, lol.
As my lovely wife of 35 years use to say before she passed a few years ago, “ “YOUR TO DA-- HARD HEADED TO KNOW WHEN IT’S TIME TO GIVE UP”, lol.
Thanks :welcome:

 

Rollback trailer

Hey Guys, :welcome: Thanks again for the replies. Joe, the rollback truck sounds good, but then you have to deal with the Hydraulic mess & cost of pumps, cylinders, controls and hoses ain: . Where a rollback trailer uses none of that. Just a couple of pins and electric brakes, much simpler and a lot less headaches, but thanks for the idea, might have to go that route.

Bob, this is my 1st time on a forum and I do not know how to move around on it like, find the new thread of Alan Dinger . Do I just put his name in and it will come up?
Just want to thank everyone who has responded to this post or thread, please keep them coming, because I�m not ready to throw in the towel yet, lol.
As my lovely wife of 35 years use to say before she passed a few years ago, � �YOUR TO DA-- HARD HEADED TO KNOW WHEN IT�S TIME TO GIVE UP�, lol.
Thanks :welcome:

Your name is Alan, Dinger is is forum name,Like Blockairrunner is yours. Just go to the post by dinger, you will see a wwwThen a site name, that is unlined, just click on that and it will show you some trailers. As where to put a thread I'm not sure but I would make a guess at in the lounge.

Bob

 

This is the right place for this thread, I also edited the title to hopefully get more response.

Rollbacks, pull a couple of pins, block the trailer tire, pull a couple of arm type of rods, back up with the tow vehicle, the trailer rolls back. Load the car, lock it down, pull forward with the tow vehicle, the trailer slide forward and you lock it down. I've studied my buddies over when we use it, It's basically a platform on a trailer that rides on rollers on a framework. I looked for a couple of hours the other day, found no plans other than what I linked.

 

Rollback trailer

This is the right place for this thread, I also edited the title to hopefully get more response.

Rollbacks, pull a couple of pins, block the trailer tire, pull a couple of arm type of rods, back up with the tow vehicle, the trailer rolls back. Load the car, lock it down, pull forward with the tow vehicle, the trailer slide forward and you lock it down. I've studied my buddies over when we use it, It's basically a platform on a trailer that rides on rollers on a framework. I looked for a couple of hours the other day, found no plans other than what I linked.

Here I thought maybe I was loosing it when someone said he didn't need to start a new thread, I knew when I first posted there was nothing in the headline that said anything on a trailer. Then I go back and look and it has rollback trailer in it, and I was sure I read it right, now the truth comes out dinger change it, thank you I know i'm not going nutz. :nono: :sweat: :smash: :thumbup:

BOB

 

Easy Load Rollback Trailer

I currently own the Exclusive Rights to the Patten for the Rollback Trailer. Feel free to contact me about haveing a trailer built but the plans are not for sell. :nono: Look for Easy Load Rollback Trailer on YouTube or on our Website.

 

Thanks for the offer

If you are the one that came up with that trailer, you really come up with one sweet trailer and I congratulate on it, that’s one nice trailer.
I’m sure I can’t afford one but thanks for the offer. I had to retire a few years shy of full retirement because of back injury (19 surgeries to date).
Living of SS now, don’t leave a lot for our big boy toys, lol.
You got something real nice with that trailer and it should do good for you, good luck with it.
Thanks for responding
Alan

 

Alan,
Here is the patent information on the rollback trailer. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5092623.pdf

Maybe you can get some information that'll help you by downloading the sketches and description of how it works.

The patent was filed in August of 1990, which means it would have expired in August of 2010 under the standard 20 years from date of filing rules of the USPTO.

FWIW, it is a violation of Federal law to make a public claim that an item you are selling is patented unless that item is indeed covered by an active patent. Perhaps A Bar D would like to come back and show a reference to some other patent he holds exclusive rights to since it appears this patent by Melvin Swanner, which he refers to on another forum, would seem to be in the public domain.

 

Easy Load Rollback Trailer

Very good you found it and posted it. Yes it was Filed in 1990 and the date of the patent is dated 1992. It expires in 2012 and it has a new 'rivsed patent pending.

Now what is your point???? And why are you so interested in this???? I bought the company, I have all the paper work and contracts, and everything that I am doing is truthful and legal.

Now if you feel different about it then feel free to contact ME and discuss it. If You can find the patent then Im sure you can find my number.

And if that is not good enough, Call Mr Swanner himself. He is 88 but loves to talk trailers.

Have a nice day. :welcome:

 

The point is that you're claiming coverage under a patent that's expired.

Any patent issued before June 8,1995 is valid for the longer of either 20 years from the date of filing, or 17 years from the date of issue.

20 years from the date of filing would be August 10, 2010, which has passed.

17 years from the date of issue would be March 3, 2009, which has passed.

Patents ARE NOT in effect for 20 years from the date of issue as you seem to think, and neither you nor the inventor decides the rules. Uncle Sam takes care of that.

What is my interest in this? Nothing more than the posting of accurate information.

OTOH, if you bought this business recently, and do honestly believe you have a patent that's in effect, you might want to talk to an attorney familiar with such stuff if part of what you purchased was a patent with some supposed value.

One thing worth remembering regarding internet postings..... As soon as you mention the word "patent", a person who's wondering how something might work knows immediately that there's an explanation of the operation, and drawings of the device, publicly available. Finding that information takes a couple minutes at the most for anyone familar with how to look for patent information. Don't mention a patent and the average person is unlikely to go looking for one.

 

Trailer

Hay, thanks a lot, not sure I have the smarts for this, but it will give me something to stay busy with, lol. Beats laying around watching TV, lol.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH

 

patent protection ?

I had a friend that had several patents, The first one was for recovering precious materials used in the computer chip industry. The problem he had was that other companies used his patent drawings and information and duplicated his process. Since the equipment was inside factories he had no way of discovery of who copied his ideas. The next process he developed had TWO important details. First he had a patent on part of the process, second he had the IMPORTANT secret ingrediant. No one could make it work from trying to copy what was patented.

 

A-bar D ???

The patent drawing does not show the pivoting front V hitch. I was trying to unload some ocean containers off my 3 car hauler , chained them to a tree. and when i drove ahead they got to the tail end, they lifted the rear wheels of my dually off the ground. Do you have the pivoting V hitch as a patented new and improved version ? or is the u tube video's now public comain. ? ?

 

Easy Load Rollback Trailer

I had Attorneys Trust me they confused the hell out of me too. For some reason they were lead to believe that the patent was extended to 2012. I not if it was because it is in the middle of a lawsuit or what. This will be checked into. The info was not just coming from just me or the inventor.
Doesn't really matter. I build these trailers, I do a good good at it and I will continue to do so. And for anyone that is going to try to build one for themselves, all I can say is good luck and be careful. They are not as easy as you may think. Alot can go wrong. lol
Now can we move on?? I'm sorry if I offended you but I am very proud of my new company and its products. We are going to get these things back out into the public with quality and integrity.

 

why reinvent the wheel.

It's a lot better to buy something that has been debugged, has all the tooling to make it flat, level, square ,and plumb. Someone that buys a semi load of steel gets a lot better price than I can. Unless you like breathing welding smoke and getting spatter burns, almost killing yourself trying to turn it upside down to finish the welds it's better to sell the old trailer and buy a nice new shinny one.

 

This is one of the best forums I seen

I don’t know anything about that paten stuff. I just a old boy with a really bad back that has never been one that can just sit around. My beautiful wife of 35 years passed away a couple of years back and the best medicine for me is to stay busy peddling. I sure your right it be a lot cheaper buying one, but that just not a option for me. I was hoping to build one to load and unload my small tractor and not have to deal with them heavy ramps. From looking at that paten, I doubt I can figure it out anyway, can’t figure out the tongue works or what size bearing to use. I can’t afford to try several brgs. Hey, I just thought it would be nice to have, guess I’d better find another project to do because I’m not going to turn into a couch potato, lol.
If plans ever come to the market, I sure would love to buy a set, so please keep me in mind and thanks for all yall’s help, great forum with some good guys.
Thanks
Alan

 

No Luck

A few people tryed to help but it seems no plans are around for this type trailer for the person that wants to build his own. I still would like to put something together for myself but I guess I will just watch craigs list for now.

 

Running off on a rainy day, anyone want some used screws, lol

I agree, there where a few good people that took their time to try and help me with this, even getting me a older paten and for them to do that, that alone says a lot of the kind of people on this site, it don’t get any better than that. Again I would like to thank everyone of you for your time and efford.
The thing with me is I’m lucky enough to have access to a small steel supply for free( as long as I don’t abuse it). I ended up breaking my back twice and the power Co. I worked for was real good, given me 2 years to try and get right (physically, no help mentally, lol). So I had to retire with 23 years, but really needed 26-27 years for full retirement. Then a year later my beautiful wife of 35 years, had a fatal accident, which left me in a mess finically, lol. So I finally dug my way out of that hole, but social security don’t leave much at the end of the month for our boy toys, lol. The bills are paid and I eat everyday, which is a whole lot better than some of our American brothers.
So when I saw that trailer on U-Tube, I was pumped. That is just what I need to help me move things around and while I have no desire to go into business, it could be used to add a little to my SS maybe occasionally. Shoot I bet it would take 6-8 months to build one even if I had the plans, lol. I’m a lot slower now with this back trouble, but I refuses to give in to it and become a couch potato, as I’ve seen so many do. The secret is keep on pushing, but I admit I do have to surrender once or twice a month, lol.( like today, that’s why I’m writing all this crap, board).
I have somewhere around 16 screws (more like lag bolts that are every bit ¼ X 2 ½ ), plus a spacer to replace one of my shattered vertebrate. I can’t remember the exact cost of those screws, but it was in the thousands for each one. I have 4 screws that were replaced back on my 14th surgery. If I could sell the 4 at 50% off because they’re slightly used (only 2 years) I bet I could get me a pretty good use roll-back trailer, LOL.
I have to apologize to everyone for this post, because I’m just cutting fool and stuck inside form the rain and I get cabin fever fast, lol. It’s insane and we wonder why medical cost is so high, but each screw looks no more than a high quality stain steel and the cost was best I can remember were $3000-$4000 each and the vertebra spacer is titanium, I hate to guess the cost of that.
Well the rain stopped and I’ve turned a hotrod forum into a medical forum, lol.
Seriously I’d like to thank everyone for all their help, didn’t get what I needed but it wasn’t because I had a good group guys helping. Please keep me in mind if plans ever come to the market for sale and my hat off to to the inventor. THE END, lol.
Alan BLOCKAIDRUNNERATGMAILDOTCOM

 

Very unique idea. I was in the oilfield truck and trailer business and I can say this is a very good idea. Ii crawled under one of these it is a great idea that the person who thought this had one of those kinds of inventive mind. Most of it is stock parts with the use of them that makes it good. And no hydraulics

When I crawled under it I went hummmmm Like the guy that invented it. It did show that it was patented on the it. U-Haul had a patent on their trailers at one time... But that is long ago... To the person who owns the patent, you need to think what you are going to do once the patent runs out.

I knew a person that made pull types trailers, nothing that was different other than he made a better trailer better than most every body else... Cost a little more for the quality in his trailer. The oilfield crunch of the '80 killed a lot of very good businesses.