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Total advance for a small block chevy.

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#1 ·
In most sbc builds that are put on a dyno they end up with 34 to 36 degrees total advance. I have a 400hp, 355cu.in. crate motor that says to set it at 32 degrees total advance. Do you think this is just a conservative setting or is there something here that I am not aware of. It's a Year One crate motor built by a very large reputable company.
 
#2 ·
Timing is never a constant. Two identically built engines could theoretically like different advance curves. Thats why it is important to dyno-tune an engine. If you do not have access to a dyno, and since the builder is recommending a certain timing spec, I would go with that spec. If you have access to a dyno you should make some pulls and verify the best setting.
 
#4 ·
blackie32 said:
I have a 400hp, 355cu.in. crate motor that says to set it at 32 degrees total advance. Do you think this is just a conservative setting or is there something here that I am not aware of.
What are the engine spec's? The 32 degrees recommended might be conservative or on the razor's edge.

Total timing is dependant on a number of
things to do w/the engine, including:
CR
cylinder head material (aluminum or cast iron)
cam timing
cylinder head combustion chamber design
carb jetting
fuel quality
operating temperature/ cooling system efficiency
etc.

as well as:
vehicle weight
final drive ratio
intended usage
ambient conditions- temperature, humidity, barometric pressure/elevation
etc.

At 400 HP, obviously your engine is not radical, so it's my opinion that the 32 degrees is just to stay on the safe side- to keep the engine out of detonation- w/o killing any more power than necessary to have a modicum of a safety margin included in the tune of the engine.

Likely, if you run good gas, have a good cooling system w/a 160 degree thermostat, etc., you could run up to 2-4 degrees additional timing- IF it's needed. Fast burn chambers and/or aluminum heads are often just right @ 32-34 degrees BTDC.
 
#7 ·
Yes, depends on heads and the pistons (flat or not). flame travel speed is the key. Vortecs with flats don't need as much and old smogger heads with dish or domed pistons need more.

try different settings to see how it runs.

big cams typically require more initial timing to run. 20 to 30 initial timing for cam over 230 degrees at 0.050" is normal. so, this requires the mechanical advance be limited to 10 degrees or even locked out.


here is a nice timing write up.

http://www.corvette-restoration.com/resources/technical_papers/Timing101.pdf