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engine identification 327 marine block

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#1 ·
Picked this up today, having a hard time identifying the heads. its a 62-65 small journal 327. The motor was the forward moving motor twin that came out of a 66' owens flagship wood boat. Here are the pictures;


http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/faytmorgan/1-2.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/faytmorgan/2-2.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/faytmorgan/3-1.jpg

http://i938.photobucket.com/albums/ad226/faytmorgan/4-1.jpg

the block casting is 3782870.

I am finding no info on the hp of the motor and I don't recognize that head identification mark that is on the last picture there. it looks like a 70's head which would make no sense seeing that it is a lower compression head. (76cc)

help would be grand. Btw sold my 283 motors. I decided after looking into it, punching out my old 283 blocks to a 4" bore would be a bad idea and more expensive than starting with a 327 block. the goals for this motor are the same as the 283 block 400-450 crank hp on 91-93 octane, 7200rpm redline 7000rpm shifting, no need for tons of tq just enough for the rpm x tq ratio. I work all day tomorrow so if you guys have more questions on the motor I apologize for not getting back to you right away.

fayt-
 
#5 ·
the valve covers need to be removed to find the casting numbers correct?

if those are the 283 heads what would you guess the hp is at now with the assumed cam to go with those heads valve/lift etc. i will find out tues or wednesday on the casting on the head which i will then post, i will be too busy to check until then.

holley carb btw
 
#7 ·
blight said:
the valve covers need to be removed to find the casting numbers correct?

if those are the 283 heads what would you guess the hp is at now with the assumed cam to go with those heads valve/lift etc. i will find out tues or wednesday on the casting on the head which i will then post, i will be too busy to check until then.

holley carb btw
yes you will need to remove the valve covers.. the id number will be a like a 6 or 7 digit number.. the last three are the most important numbers we need to see what they are.. as far as HP the way it is.. maybe 200-250HP or so just guessing not really sure
 
#12 ·
#18 ·
So I've been looking at heads and intakes all day this is what I came up with. looking for 450-460ish crank hp or so at 7000rpm

regardless;
327 small journal motor
this cam
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=1966&gid=284
between 10:1 and 10.5:1 compression (whatever pistons I may need for that)
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I have two different head/intake combos I have come up with

1.
Intake
http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/5001/10002/-1

Heads
http://www.jegs.com/i/Patriot+Performance/723/2168/10002/-1

OR

2.
Intake
http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/7516/10002/-1

Heads
http://www.jegs.com/i/Patriot+Performance/723/2151/10002/-1

Which setup do you think I will be better off with for my power goals?
 
#22 · (Edited)
Dear Colleagues,
I'm so sorry that I'm refreshing such old topic, but I can't find any information about what engine I got :)
I would like to know hom much HP it has?

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Any ideas? Only thing I know that it's a industry engine :(
Thank you.
You have a cross-up of numbers and codes, so it is hard to say for sure exactly what you have..

The "3970010" casting number is for a 4" bore block, from 1969-1979, and used to make either '69 327 or '69-79 350 engines, and could be machined either for 2 or 4 bolt mains

The "S" in the S0415CFA stamped code is for "Saginaw Service" plant, the "0415" is fourth month, fifteenth day....but the "CFA" code comes up as either '82 or '85 305 engine, - which is not possible according the block casting #

Codes posted online and in code books typically are for just production car and truck engines and not industrial/marine/agricultural applications....so that may be the reason the code application does not jibe with the block casting info.

My best guess is that you have a industrial 350, likely 4-bolt main....but you will probably have to open it up and check bore size and crank casting number to truly know for sure exactly what you have.

Head casting number, from under the valvecovers, could provide more clues.

Heads appear to be the late '69-70 "Camel Hump" type head, just from the two hump identifier in the pic showing the stamped codes.

327 or 350 with these heads in an industrial engine is usually a 230-250 hp engine...but a real good starting point for a hot rod engine. Usually have forged steel cranks instead of cast iron.
 
#21 ·
. WHERE are you located? Need more info... is it a Chevy engine? a V8? Approximate year? full picture? type of equipment used on? Casting number under valve cover? Any info on block next to distributor?

, BTW, as to original poster, 327" marine engines of that era were usually rated about 225 HP... but the crappy newer heads somebody swapped on prolly knocked it down under 200 HP... took away 'planing off' torque...
 
#25 ·
The heads are camel hump heads, which are obvious in the picture. They look to be the 186 castings but hard to tell by sight.
The block was cast during the day shift, as indicated as the arrow points at "D"
THe clock indicates it was cast around 5 o'clock. THe date code will be on the bell housing area as well. It will look like this example: A 5 9
A is the month, January. 5 is the date, the 5th, 9 is the year, 1969, 79, 89, You'll know which year by checking the block's casting number and the years it was cast.