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Transmission didnt want to go into gear when cold

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#1 ·
I have a question, my transmission TH350 just did something its never done. I started my car, backed out and drove up to the stoplight at the end of the road, and it was like it went into neutral. I tried shifting it and it wouldnt go to park or drive untill i revved it some, then it went into drive, and it was fine after that. I just had the pan gasket replaced last month, and the shop said the transmission checked out good. Its full i checked the fluid when I got back. Im just wondering what would of caused this? Could the very cold weather have anything to do it? ?It was 26 out the night before last, and 28 last night. I didnt drive it yesterday, last day I drove was Friday. I didnt let the car warm up very long today, and my transmission has its own cooler, so it does not go through the radiator to help warm it up. Im just kinda in panic mode, cause I almost got stuck under the light at the intersection.o_O
 
#6 ·
You mention the trans would not "go to park" ? Not sure I follow that? If shift linkage is correct , it should shift into park? Unless you meant reverse? Could be an internal shift linkage problem if no park.

Or , if the trans is several years old, it could be morning sickness. Hard internal seals cause a loss of pressure via leaks at the internal seals inside the drums. Then the trans will drop out of gear at idle ie: neutral out. WIth an engine rev and the trans jumps back into gear , that is from low pressure to higher pressure internally.
 
#7 ·
Short answer, its not specifically temp related.

Coldest night I ever drove my car was -22f. Getting it started was trickier than anything the transmission had to do. That was a 20yr old 4cyl chevy celebrity. I let it warm up for half an hour, while I shoveled myself out; and then I drove an hour to get to work (typically a 10 minute drive) and the car still didnt make any heat in the cabin LOL
A Trans will shift a bit soft at 20 below, once it gets some heat, no problems usually. I have experenced the "neutral out" that Crosley mentioned, in high mileage cars.
Keep digging, you'll find it.
 
#8 ·
Transmission oil is pretty much like a 0W-8 or 10 in viscosity and largely is a pool of synthetics to get to behave that way. It does tire-out with age and heat to cool and back cycles and of course gears and bearings do there best to crush the molecules.

Back in the good old days of the 1960’s and earlier ATF was formulated from whale oil as mineral oil from the ground just doesn’t behave well in this application. After commercial whaling was outlawed the manufacturers of this stuff had to take mineral oil base stocks and modify them to the needs of automatic transmissions actually manual tranny’s and rear axle gear as well since most of these EP oils were based on whale stocks not gunk from the ground. Needless to say in the late 60’s into the 70’s was a hard time for highly loaded gear reduction systems. One of my first jobs in Seattle was working gear reducers for certain high speed boats that had aircraft turbines on one end of a shaft and salt water high pressure drives on the other with a transmission in between. That was a project with problems enough to drive a sober man to drink. We eventually licked it but that was more as a surviver than a conquerer.

Bogie
 
#12 ·
So I checked again and it was little low, so I added some fluid. drove around and checked again, and now its just a tad over the F line. Should I worry and try to take some out or is a little over fine? Here is a pic i drew of about how much over

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#13 ·
So I checked again and it was little low, so I added some fluid. drove around and checked again, and now its just a tad over the F line. Should I worry and try to take some out or is a little over fine? Here is a pic i drew of about how much over

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So I checked again and it was little low, so I added some fluid. drove around and checked again, and now its just a tad over the F line. Should I worry and try to take some out or is a little over fine? Here is a pic i drew of about how much over

View attachment 636251
Won't hurt a thing . If it wouldn't go into park , sounds like linkage , but it's an odd occurrence.